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The Mini 14 in it’s secondary format

The Mini 14 seems to have a love hate relationship with gun owners.   There are a lot of gun owners that were mad at Bill Ruger for his lack of a spine during the Clinton years and his support of the Assault Weapon ban, and many people were irked by the fact the Mini 14 was not sold with 20rd or 30rd magazines which were supplied to Law Enforcement and AC556 owners.   The Mini 14 is one of those guns that everyone wishes would hold up to the same reputation of combat worthiness that the M1 Garand and M14 or M1A had, but it couldn’t.   There were design flaws that kept the Mini 14 from ever being anything more than for a few quick shots.

The Mini 14 with all of it’s shortcomings is still an extremely reliable firearm under most conditions.   It does not hold up to the amount of fire that an M16 can tolerate, but although it is very good as a truck gun or varmint gun, it can be used for home defense because the .223 is actually a very good close range caliber if using the correct kind of defensive ammunition.   Butler Creek rifle stocks have given another angle to the Mini 14, and if you using fragmenting ammunition, the Mini  14 is as destructive as any AR15 rifle is.   This urban Carbine is light and easy to store in your gun safe.  Heck, I’ve actually had more room in my gun safe for more firearms since I swapped a few standard Mini 14 stocks in for these folding stocks.

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Bans on gun stocks and accessories

I feel sorry for some of the people that are gun owners and are presently stepping into the word of AR15, AK or Mini 14 ownership for the first time and live in anti-gun States.  I have had some really bizarre conversations with friends in California and New Jersey that had to take AR15 or FAL gun magazines and have blocks welded into them so they couldn’t take more than 10rds.  To some people these sounds like a good thing, but the real problem is  you are taking something that is functional at a certain operating system and potentially messing the whole thing up.  Magazine capacity restrictions are like putting smaller gas tanks on cars to keep people from speeding.   The other problems that many in New Jersey or California and other States run into are gun accessories like flash hiders or folding stocks, these are all usually banned.

I find the whole issue about bans on gun accessories like bayonets and folding stocks to basically be about people trying to put band aids on your kids body parts where there is no bleeding expecting to stop another person from beating him or her up.    Nobody wants to talk about how most gun crime is from the drug trade which basically is a self inflicted problem due to our Federal Government getting involved.    Gun accessories like, bayonets, flash hiders, folding stocks,  collapsing rifle stocks have no bearing on reducing crime and putting people who are a threat to society in jail for long periods of time would have more impact on reducing crime than making law abiding citizens block 20rd magazines so they can only hold 10.

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Need a suggestion on which gun for home defense?

rifle stocksIf you are thinking about buying your first gun for inside the home, there is no better option than a shotgun.    Some rookie gun shopper may think a shotgun is too powerful, but the reality is there is no better defensive weapon that can be so versatile when it comes to projectile ballistics.  The difference in bullet penetration between a shotgun slug and size 9 shot is tremendous.  Both are incredible leathal at close ranges, but energy is lost very quickly which is an assett in close situations.   Due to modern home construction, there is no better reasoning than to consider what happens to a bullet if it misses the target or if it happens to hit the target and still go on.   There is a saying that there is a lawyer attached to every bullet that exits your gun if it is used in a defensive situation and this very true.

I think the notion of having an Elmer Fudd type of shotgun for home defense is a funny idea, but it’s a very practical defensive weapon.   If you have access to plenty of ammo, shotguns can be reloaded quite easily.   The reality is a pump shogun is a better option due to magazine capacity, but I always warn people that pump shotguns need to be operated properly and people need to understand that they can be very difficult to operate in certain positions.   Short stroking them can also be a problem for a less trained operator, so don’t hand one off to a novice without giving them training.   The Remington 870 has always been my primary shotgun recommendation, but that’s mostly because they can be found for under $250 used, and with just a few bucks  more, a side saddle or magazine tube extension can increase your firepower.   There are also many rifle stocks and accessories that you can mount on them, but please keep in mind that smaller operators will not function as well with heavy guns.  Keep it simple and be practical.

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Mounting Flashlights on shotgun

ATI Rifle StocksAfter a few years of actually taking real fighting classes, one of the most common things every instructor told us was, “get a white light” on your fighting weapon.    There are some handgun options where you can hold a flashlight while using a handgun and not have a fixed light on it which makes holster options very limited.   The Section8 Tactical ultimate retention device is a good tool to use, but this isn’t recommended for using with a shotgun or carbine.  I recenltly finished a training course where we used lasers for defensive purposes.   The best tactical for using lasers is knowing when to turn them off.   Yes, using a flashlight or laser is a giveaway, but spotlighting a threat and identifying it is paramount.

The 2nd most common suggestion for a home defense weapon is the shotgun.   Setup a target at 15yds and put 9- 9mm bullets in center mass, then pick up a shotgun with OO buck and pull the trigger.   The shotgun will will that argument every time.   Shotguns are almost always heavy and can be awkward to shoot in some situations, primarily the most commong pump action ones.   ATI Rifle Stocks have a pistol flashlight accessory that works well for putting white light on your shotgun.   You can easily take that $180 used Remington 870 that was being sold at your gun shop and convert it into a brutal close quarters fighting weapon.   I strongly recommend getting the stock length to the appropriate LOP.    I’ve seen plenty of lazy people think they will be find in a course until they get down and dirty and end up punching themselves in the nose with their strong hand when the gun recoils.

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Tactical Stocks for the Ruger 10/22

Advanced Technology StocksI must admit that I wasn’t into the idea of needing a semi-auto 22LR.   The 22lr isn’t an effective defensive round and really mostly a plinking and training round.    A bolt action with iron sights is still the best configuration for learning how to shoot.  It teaches aiming and trigger control, but i think the Ruger 10/22 is still a fun gun to shoot with.   There seems to a lot of big kids that like to shoot the 10/22 and there’s nothing wrong with a kid shooting them.   I have a friend that put a heavy barrel on his and it’s a tac driver.

Advanced Technology Stocks are an inexpensive modification that is an easy upgrade to Carbines, semi-autos and hunting rifles.   The Fibeforce stock will give you a different feel than the standard Sturm Ruger 10/22 wood stock.   These stocks are easy drop in modifications that can be done in secondes.   The thumbhole stockwill give you a better cheek weld and may be an easy fix for a big kid to get a better grip on this little rifle.   Stock #ADVRUG3000 can be purchased at Rogue Elite.net

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The Tactical Coyote Gun

Advanced Technology StocksI have to admit it, I am a Mini 14 enthusiast.    The Mini 14 has served me well and I always respected and understood the design limitations.   The more I involve myself with the shooting world, the more I just sit back and observe gun owners and watch their skills with the firearms they choose to use.   Gunboard squabble will never end when it comes to one gun over the other, but there is nothing wrong with modifying a less expensive semi-auto gun and using it as a defensive weapon.

There have been several ballistics tests showing that a fragmenting 223 round will penetrate less than many of the handgun bullet designs.   Once people realize that when they send a round out of their gun inside their home, that bullet may not end after it strikes it’s target and it may penetrate even further if it misses.   The idea of using a Mini 14 or M4 type rifle over a shotgun or handgun is actually a very responsible and intelligent thing to do.    I would also suggest that a less trained user will probable use a light carbine more effectively than a shotgun or handgun.   Advanced Technology Stocks has a Mini 14 package that can help convert your Coyote gun Mini 14 into a close quarters defensive weapon.

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Hunting shotguns and defensive shotguns

Advanced Technology StocksMost of us probable got into the shooting world via a shotgun or 22lr rifle.    Those seem to be some of the best instroductory firearms.    You can learn the basics about shooting from a 22lr bolt action rifle and the shotgun is the most versatile firearm out there.    Something like a Remingto 870 shotgun is normally available with an 18-28 barrel on it and can be found in 12 or 20 gauge.   The shotgun can be used for pheasant hunting all the way up to deer just by altering the type of shot or using a slug.  Depending on the sights you have on the gun, you may want to consider rifle sights if you plan on using slugs very often.
The shotgun is handsdown the most effective close range weapon.   I’ve demonstrated the use of Ar15s and handguns against targets under 50yds and then shown students a Remington 870 using buckshot and there is always a clear winner when it comes to hit ration and damage done.   A shotgun may be a powerful tool and possible too much for some users, but you can easily modify an inexpesive gun show find that costs less than $200 to a practical defensive shotgun.  Advanced Technology Stocks have a few updgrades and add ons that will give you comfort when it comes to choosing a home defense weapon.

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A better look

Advanced Technology StocksBack in the 1990s there was a lot of Eastern Com-Block guns coming into the Country.   There were also a lot of MAK90s and SKS Rifles coming in from China.   Not sure why there were so many Chinese guns coming in, but there must have been some house cleaning from the Militarys over there.   You may be able to find a well made 7.62×39 rifle being made in the USA now, but they are pretty expensive and will cost you about the same as a new AR15 or more.   Some of the nicest AKs are being by Arsenal Arms and they look and shoot great.

You may at some point come across a really beat up and ugly looking AK variant called a MAK90.   These came in the country and normal AK parts, but had to have a thumbhole stock put on it and the pistol grip was removed.   This has to be one of the biggest eye sores ever put a a military style rifle.   Probable one of the most un-natural configurations.   There is a way to legally change the stock to a nicer looking form from Advanced Technology stocks,  theywill work on the Egyptian Maadi or Chinese MAK90.  This Fiber Force Stock

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